6918의 댓글

Same effect as the Riding Crop.

37055의 댓글

Anyone know if this stacks with Riding Crop?

33117의 댓글

This trinket is a reward from the Dragonmaw Race quests which, towards the end, aren't easy at all even with a riding crop, without I'm guessing it's hardly possible (admitedly I haven't tried). So each player will most likely still need to acquire their riding crop before being able to get their Skybreaker Whip anyway, so I don't see how this will have any impact for LWers at all... Omiting the odd lucky exceptions...

48902의 댓글

Any dufus can buy a riding crop. You gotta earn the whip! =P

Gimroth의 댓글

I have tried this quests a few times so far, with a Riding Crop equipped, and found out I was just as fast as Skyshatter. I thought he might attune his speed to mine but reading previous comments I think he's at 290% standard.
And it really is a bloody shame these trinkets don't stack. I honestly don't feel like trying harder now I know it doesn't.. if it's only for some rep and gold then why botter getting that trinket if it doesn't improve anything.. Blizz might want to change this reward or make it stack cause this is dull.
Was thinking they'd give people an opportunity to be as fast as pala's, guess not.
To get back to the flight: it really helps if you know how he's flying, I always stay ahead of him, slightly attuning hight etc. The bombs can't reach you if you're in front of him and a bit higher as well.

40604의 댓글

I'm willing to bet they threw this in there in case a 70 decided not to get a crop (which is entirely possible, though unlikely). Without the reward, you couldn't complete the end race.

It would be nice if this was a quest-only item that despawned after you won and would only show up if you didn't have a Riding Crop.

zeman의 댓글

Doesnt stack with crusader aura.

Suhov의 댓글

I vendored my Ridig Crop then I get this one. Riding crop is just crafted trinket but this show that you are a bit good in flying. =)

Insidious의 댓글

I completed the trials without having a Riding Crop so this was quite nice. The last flight took a few tries as it's pretty tough to keep up with him, but doable after some practise. Also I didn't fly ahead of him, just cutting the corners and following him closely (but not too close) worked fine for me.

Ominous의 댓글

Should probably just group with a Paladin for this quest. =P

Jivitz의 댓글

Before people start cluttering this with the standard mount speed is multiplied comment, read this.

Mount Speeds are additive and no matter what WoWWiki said, the devs have clearly stated on the official forums that it is not multiplied. If you have an epic flying mount with a crop, you fly at 390% speed not 418%. Check the WoW Forums or the official site in the flying mount section. Taken from the official site, "When using the riding crop, the epic flying mount is only 10% slower than the flying mount taxis!" Also, as stated, the taxi's move at 400%, so it is clear and proven that it is additive and not multiplied.

You can also go here.
http://209.85.48.12/9558/48/upload/p3681774.png

17792의 댓글

The whip should be 12%. I mean honestly, riding crops are ridiculously easy to make. Anyone who wanted one could get it without much hassle.

andrwarrior의 댓글

does it stack with riding crop? or does the unique-equipped stat not let you use both?

86222의 댓글

so is this tricket stack with Riding Chop or not?

9020의 댓글

Team up a paladin with Mount Aura 20% speed.

Just an idea, I actually never try it yet.

120595의 댓글

This quest comes down to 2 things. Reputation with Netherwing and some pocket money.

If you never had a riding crop or carrot on a stick, I can't imagine that number being higher than average, then this quest is for you. A ton of patience, a new keyboard or two and you’re fine.

For those of us who: Have little patience, hate bugged quests, own riding crops, and don't care if we get Netherwing rep as quickly as possible, you shouldn't loose too much sleep over this quest.

I like many others before me, went nearly insane trying to finish this quest line. The races before Mulverik and SB were fun and kept me entertained quite a bit. The last two, I could have done with out. Mulv's race gives you 500 rep (the equiv of two eggs) and the Skybreaker race is 1000 rep and a riding crop. In the time and patience it took to finish these I could have just farmed eggs or completed other dailies. 1500 rep for a lot of time and lost patience seems not all that worth the effort. Don't get me wrong, I did finish both races, but looking back, I would not recommend these quests to the short tempered. I would wait until Blizz got enough tickets to fix it because as it is, it's bad. Just to clarify, 1k rep is 2 bars at honored. 2 as in dos.

So in closing, if your looking for a quick Netherwing rep gring-- go for it, but make sure the wife and kids are away from your computer. If your casually building Netherwing rep and really don't care about getting your mount asap, skip these or try them sparingly.

The quest reward-- does not stack with other speed increasing stuff
The money is pocket change considering your investment into riding skill
The rep can be made up elsewhere or at most, will tack on a day or two more before you get your mount.

Thanks.

53766의 댓글

Perhaps this is useless once you have riding crop, but I'd keep it for the sentimental value. Every time I would look at it, I'd remember how, against all odds, I defeated the Captain of Netherwing.

dinnerbone의 댓글

Looks like this, along with the other mount trinkets, are getting a huge buff & nerf all rolled into one ball of "Wait... what?" in 2.4.2
Any ideas?

Nope, they aren't going faster.

Or slower.

Two words: MOUNT. ENCHANTS.

Tooltip for the Skybreaker Whip: "Permanently enchant a mount to increase its mounted speed by 10%. You may only enchant mounts in your own inventory, and enchanting your mount will cause it to become soulbound. Single use."

Unconfirmed changes according to http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=6699.0, might not make it into Live or even the PTR, but I'm still posting here in any case.

100627의 댓글

I have been using Ring Crop for a long time and I'm also using boots with Mithril Spurs but never checked if they stacked. Do they help raise mount speed combined?

Dhazy의 댓글

Everybody always asks me why I have this when I'm a Blood Elf and not an Orc.

Uh...

137940의 댓글

Ok isnt this faster than Crusader Aura(CA)while using and epic flying mount?
CA is 20% mounted speed so...
CA is 280+20%=300 right?
and the Skybreaker Whip(SW) 10% Mount so...
SW would be 280+(280x.1)=308% (.1 is 10%)
So really a riding crop and the whip are better while using a epic flying mount....
Right?

68467의 댓글

I personally propose we start a petition with Blizzard...stacking the crop and the whip is pushing it, with the speed increase and conceptually (having a beating stick and a whip and them both making the animal faster individually does not equal out to 0, lol) but frankly I believe that should you actually go through the trouble of completeing this heinous chain the whip should stack with the carrot and the spurs...Not OP movement increase, but still practically rewarding.

Allakhazam의 댓글

It separates the Flying from the Dying.

Allakhazam의 댓글

does it stack with riding crop?

Allakhazam의 댓글

This thing is p1ss easy to get!

Grammaton - Emerald Dream

Allakhazam의 댓글

10% is the riding speed bonus cap, some blue post talked about it a little bit after BC was released.

Thottbot의 댓글

This does NOT stack with riding crop, or any other mount movement items/abilities.

Thottbot의 댓글

Confirmed Does not stack with any other effets includeing pally increase and hunter, "animal handler"

jsut saves you the 100g for riding crop

Thottbot의 댓글

It is understandable that Blizzard does not want equipment like this and Riding Crop to stack. My only gripe is that this isn't even an improvement. Yes, if it was 20% pallies would be useless once more, but is it not reasonable to put this at +15%.

Considering you basically need the Riding Crop to defeat Skyshatter (otherwise memorizing his course in numerous attempts), this questline has little value other than to further reputation.

Thottbot의 댓글

This needs to be brought up on the forums if it hasn't been already. It is a useless reward since you almost certainly need the riding crop to beat the guy. I have tried several times and he is damn hard to keep up with even with the crop equipped.

Thottbot의 댓글

What is the name of that addon that tells you how much speed youre riding with?

Thottbot의 댓글

done whole chain with only a carrot on a stick. i noticed that the second last boss was harder than this one as this only took me 5 tries while the other took at least 12, this is also shorter too and the, although i believe a riding crop would have made it easier

Thottbot의 댓글

I find it very odd that there are people with 300 riding who don't have riding crops.

You saved up 5200g for a faster mount but you never spent 100g to make your non-epic more livable?

To me this is just another example of Blizzard being asleep at the wheel. There's absolutely no reason why this could not and should not stack with everything else just like riding crop does. Its pathetic, really, that it doesn't.

Even if, for whatever reason, they intended for the quest reward to be useless to the overwhelming majority of recipients, there should have been additional detail stating that it doesn't stack with anything. Its poor game design and poor attention to detail.

Its ridiculous that we have to come to a third party to figure out what the hell is going on.

/end editorial

Thottbot의 댓글

This can be an Easy way to Save 100g on Rideing Crop. just get a Pally to follow u so u get an extra 20% speed while doing the race's

Thottbot의 댓글

So I tried this boss about 30 or more times and I didn't have a Riding Crop. I did have a mount set I always used since level 60 with +riding on gloves, mithril spurs boots, and my carrot trinket. I did this quest mostly for the trinket, but the rep is nice too. I didn't want to buy a riding crop because you all know they don't stack. My glove and boots were in the bank I didn't use them till the last few tries.

What didn't work:
Noggenfogger didn't really help on me, I bought 40 of these after reading someone said it helps to dodge the fires. Not to mention the pot has 2 min cool down now.

I tried the stay ahead method and didn't work for me either, this was when I only had carrot trinket on. I either get too far ahead or he caught up and I ran into the meteor.

What worked:
I decided to just follow him the usual way and dodge the meteors, but he gets too far ahead. Eventually I say f this, I went to bank and picked up the glove and boots. Came back and beat him the 3rd try. Use keyboard to strafe, use mouse to steer, always kept him in the center of my screen as I'm following right behind him. I was able to keep a consistent far distance without losing him. Very happy that I can finally beat him.

Thottbot의 댓글

I'll save you people a lot of time and arguing.

As stated on WoW's Website under:

Transportation >> Flying Mounts

Then towards the Bottom under Additional Information.

Link: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/mounts/flying.html

"The Riding Crop provides a 10% speed boost to ground and air mounts. It does not stack with any other enchant or speed boosting object so once you have it, that's all you need. (Carrot on a Stick, you've served me well!)"

KkThanxBai. =D

Thottbot의 댓글

Without riding crop.
Only the first half is the difficult part.
1st part - From start till you come back to base.
Try to use the "Stay ahead" method

2nd part - From base to the top of the mountain.
Use the "follow from behind" method.

so much easier. watch the youtube.

btw. think the carrot stick helps alot.

Thottbot의 댓글

They should buff this item to 12% or 15%. At least make it better than the Riding crop most people had anyway when doing this quest.

Thottbot의 댓글

lucky im an enchanter - ima DE it and get back a few more gold than selling it at least. enchanting FTW!

Thottbot의 댓글

After 30 retries I got a bit frustrated. So I went to Tanaris, bought a few stacks of Noggelfogger, did the Carrot-on-a-Stick quest on my way there and went back to defeat Skyshatter. Succeeded on my first try :)

No Riding Crop needed but a bit of speed-boost is not bad either. And I have to say- Noggelfogger did make the whole thing a lot easier.

GL!

Thottbot의 댓글

It's really sad that this thing sucks as bad as it does, but it really is a crappy reward when you get it. If it wasn't for the great rep from the quest it wouldn't be worth the bother. Ask anyone on your server thats as high or higher than level 69 and theres a great chance they already have a riding crop. The only people who don't have a riding crop are people who blow money as fast as they make it, or people who are just too cheap to pony up the 100g or less it takes to make it. This thing needs a buff, even if its only 1% to make it worth the effort. Right now its only redeeming quality is the icon looks great.

Thottbot의 댓글

Craptian Skyshatter can officially kiss my arse, died sooo many times trying to beat him, the only usefull thing I found doing this quest is that the Engineering Parachute Cloak has a 30 second cooldown, for when he fried my arse...

Thottbot의 댓글

The thought that someone would do this quest line to save 100 gold is dumb. The time I spent on this quest, could have been better spent farming gold if it were not for the killer rep gained. 1000 rep for winning the final race.

Good luck

Thottbot의 댓글

BLIZZARD! Are you listening? next patch soon right? let this thing stack with the riding crop! Don't let such a touqh q chain without a reward that matters for cryin out loud! hear your customers! We are allways right.. :)

Thottbot의 댓글

LoL

i wanna see those riders who use pair of horsewhip instead one, and wanders why his animal dont run faster =))))))

Thottbot의 댓글

lol you guys need to stop complaining. im sure most of you knew that it wouldn't stack with the riding crop before you decided to do this quest, but the Skybreaker whip is not the reason why you did it. you did it for the rep and some nice gold.

Thottbot의 댓글

Did this to get whip today on my alt, Skyshatter has been nerfed a fair bit, as it is about half the length and much easier than he used to be. Still a nice free riding crop, rep and gold :)

Tips:

1. Stay above and in front of him
2. Take all your armor off
3. Use noggin foggers to make you small ;)

Thottbot의 댓글

im pretty sure this chain was for the gold and rep
besides, what would you rather have equipped, an easy to get riding crop or the skybreaker whip?

Thottbot의 댓글

Why is everyone QQing. They could've not put a reward you know. The world isn't going to end if you can't ride 10% faster.

Thottbot의 댓글

I just wanted to say. LOL. I'm a druid with the epic flightform speed trinket, and I've just been too lazy to make a riding crop for my ground mount. Yay me. Plus, I can just get back in flight form even if those bombs hit me. :P Lol @ easy mode.

Thottbot의 댓글

I don't have a riding crop and I destroyed that useless piece of junk carrot a long time ago for the bagspace. I'm doing these quests for the Netherwing rep - not for the reward. Plus it's kind of a fun change of pace from the usual grinding (plus I've already done all the dailies today). I have to admit, Mulverick was a pain in the ass, but I hear Skyshatter isn't as hard. Regardless, I have 4 more hours to work on it. Shouldn't take even close to that to finish, and it's 1000 rep for the last guy, and about 2500, collectively, for the others. Not a bad day when you add that to the 8 dailies I've done, plus about 4 eggs.

I have to agree, though - I think the Skybreaker Whip should have a slight advantage over the riding crop.

Thottbot의 댓글

so i have this and animal handling skill, i go with plus +%8 speed or +%10 speed?if it doesnt stack, which one?

Thottbot의 댓글

I'd probably be happier to replace my crop with this if they at least made the damn thing epic.. fully epic > blue trinkets

Thottbot의 댓글

Mostly I'm just going to enjoy the novelty of having an official dragonmaw whip to spank my netherdragon with whenever I finally get exalted. Other than that, yes, it's kind of a silly reward. I'm a leatherworker and a druid, so it's doubly useless for me (guess it's time to sell the ol' riding crop). Still, the rep reward, the tons of gold and the satisfaction of beating one of the buggier quests still left in WoW is worth it.

Seriously, though, for a quest that so many have done already, you really think they would have fixed it by now... those dragonmaw races went from fun to repetitive to frustratingly impossible.

Boopyhead의 댓글

Easy summary for people playing Classic!

There are 4 tiers of speed enhancements. These tiers DO NOT STACK WITH EACH OTHER, so if you have a better tier, you cannot get any of the bonuses from any of the lower tiers.

Tier A: Paladin's 성전사의 오라 (+20% mounted speed), given at level 62 in TBC.
Tier B: Paladin's 심판의 추격, Talent 3/3 (+15% mounted speed AND on-foot runspeed), requires 13 points in the Retribution talents. NOTE: Before TBC, in vanilla, it was only +8% speed and required 12 points.
Tier C1: Trinket 도안: 말채찍 (+10%), created by leatherworkers. Despite what you may think, it DOESN'T stack with ANY other items/enchants (from the lower tiers).
Tier C2 ("Free" Alternative): Trinket 하늘파괴자 채찍 (+10%, Quest Reward), gained by learning Epic Flying at level 70, becoming Honored with the Netherwing, and defeating all of their races in the sky and defeating the final quest, 용아귀 경주: 대장 스카이쉐터 (something a lot of players give up on due to the difficulty of beating the racers).
Tier D: The "vanilla WoW solution": 당근 달린 지팡이 (+3%, Quest Reward) and 주문식: 장갑 마법부여 - 숙련된 조련술 (+2%) and 도면: 미스릴 박차 (+4%) = Around 9%, but not exactly due to how multipliers stack, but it's less than 10%.

Hope this helps you!

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