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5909의 댓글

Does anyone have any insight into which of these two clans you should try to build rep with?. It seems each quest is geared to gain the upper hand with one or the other faction Gelkis or Magram. If there is no different please advise. Thanx.

kreghx의 댓글

Think the admins were hinting at what they'd like us to do when they titled the Magram quest "Brutal Politics" and the Gelkis quest "Strange Alliance". I.E. brutalize the Magram and ally with the Gelkis?

I know we don't have to swing it this way, but I'm going that way just to get it over with.

And I also found Warug at 74,68. North of the main village, in the hills by a bonfire. Can't miss it. ;)

6107의 댓글

BORING....I had to kill 200+ centaurs of the other clan to get my rep up high enough to finish this quest. I started at 2200 rep, and had to raise it to 3000. The thing is, I was only getting 5 rep from each kill, and some would only give me 1! Only start this quest chain if you are a true grinder.

10536의 댓글

I got 20rep points for each kill. it took about 20 minutes to gain the friendly rep.

Siedygan의 댓글

If you ain't an Engineer it might be best to do Strange Alliance instead. It is really hard to get that Advanced Target Dummy in Gizmo for Warug.

Robification의 댓글

Personally I find it weird that The Gelkis the Magic users of the centaur clan gives the good melee class reward and that the Magram the brutes of the centaur rivals give out the better of the caster rewards.

If you do Brutal Politics and follow through the chain you will get one of two items https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6789 Ceremonial Centaur Blanket which is a decent caster cloak or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6788 which is a good leather wearing belt for hunters and rogues.

If you decide to do the Strange Alliance side of the two quests you will receive one of two rewards. You will receive https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6773 The Gelkis Marauder Chain a decent mail chest piece or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6774 Uthek's Finger which to be frank sucks unless you are using a caster dagger or one hand of some sort other than that its pretty much useless.

There is a little insight for you.

Legas의 댓글

Where can i find the boss or what is his name at Magram.......Because i dont know what to do with the quest where i need to get rep with Magram. I got rep with Gelkis but what do i do with the other quest and where do i find the boss at Magram. Uthek the Wise at gelkis was easy but the other one.... :( Thankx ! :P

96168의 댓글

GELKIS clan located in the vicinity of 37,80

139811의 댓글

you can find new leader of malgram ( Warug) on 75,68

good luck!

Fanthom의 댓글

The Gelkis are found around 38.85 and the magram are found at 68.72

As a 34 Paladin I soloed this easily. The quest told me which clan to fight against. You will not aggro unless you are already in a battle and another walks past or near. I recommend staying away from the Windchasers as they can heal themselves. The Stampers and Scouts will respawn fast enough for you to mainly concentrate on them.

Also, be sure you pick up the quest "Centaur Bounty" while you do this quest. Otherwise your going to spend a long time on these two quests ;]

167413의 댓글

Neh, I think they're about the same, really.

Thottbot의 댓글

Does it really matter what clan you go friendly with? i've heard it ends with the same quest with either factions.

Thottbot의 댓글

im a lvl 35 warrior and i chose to ally with the gelkis, which is a much better idea than allying with the magram. on the final quest i had my friend help and i got 4300 xp. hihgley recommended chain of quests! plus i got like 10 green items including a lockbox and some really nice armor and gloves

Thottbot의 댓글

There are two choices to go with either Magram or Gelkis village. I came here to see if there was a better reason to choose one or the other. xRasmus has stated Gelkis and what he thought but no one has said why to choose Magram other than Gelkis are easier to kill. This leads me to think if Magram are harder to kill then maybe going Gelkis might bring something better in the end.
I am lvl 50 so doing this is not about xp so much as I missed this zone in my earlier growth and want to do it. I also know that later these factions might matter somewhere though no one is mentioning it. Being a NE I did quest with Centaurs in Ashenvale. Suppose I should have paid closer attention to factions with those to see if it was more than just Darnassus.
I do know there is a pit of sorts in the Gelkis Village and when I went down there even thou they were not argo they attacked me. Why? Ask in gc but got no reply. Didn't have anything like that happen in the other village at all.

Thottbot의 댓글

Warug is northeast of the pool on top of a small hill

Thottbot의 댓글

It would be fun to do both but it would also take a lot of work to get from hated to friendly with the other.

Thottbot의 댓글

Warun is at 74,68 .

You need to kill a lot of Geikies (whatever) to gain his advantage !

Thottbot의 댓글

i made a big mistake of being the magram. the gelkis have much more quests and they have a bridge to the cave what do the magrams have?

Thottbot의 댓글

Choose this quest If you need leather armour, and "strange alliance" If you need mail armour. check the final rewards.

NUFF SAID

Thottbot의 댓글

how many gelkis guys do you have to kill to get warug to talk to you and complete this quest? i dont know how many i killed but i am hostile with the gelkis and still neutral with the morgrams, how do i get them to friendly ? Must i be hated by the gelkis?

Thottbot의 댓글

If you pay attention to your battle text window, your reputation goes up 20 with one group and down 100 with the other group with each kill. At least that's what I was getting.

When I check my reputations under the Character screen, I believe was at 2240/3000 with Gelkis and 800/3000 with Magrams.

Working backwards, it seems as if you start at 2000/3000 with both groups, and I had already killed 12 Magrams.

Therefore, 20 kills = no longer neutral with the guys you're killing, 100 kills = friendly with the other group.

Thottbot의 댓글

Location WARUG is 74.68 is OK

Thottbot의 댓글

Kill Gelkis at 34.90

Thottbot의 댓글

Best reason I can see to choose one over the other is that the path leading from Desolace into Feralas is in Gelkis lands. Now, this isn't a big deal unless you have a reason to get to Mauradon or Mannaroc coven a bit faster than from Nigel's Point. Since I hadn't seen it listed as a reason, thought I'd mention it.

Thottbot의 댓글

34,90 I s where u kill the Gelkis other Cords r for Warug is at 74,68

Thottbot의 댓글

muhaha... very easy... just hit characterifo buttom... and then under the reputation tab click on the gelkis/Mangram clan centaurs... a little pop up will aprear to the right .... select show as exp bar... bingo!... NOW YOU KNOW HOW MANY YOU MUST KILL.... forget about maths... gelkis camp is as arround 39.80 and magram camp is at about 69.70... GL mates..

Thottbot의 댓글

Well I found the Gelkis spokesperson relatively easily, but Warug, the Magram spokesperson was a bit harder.

If you look at Magram Village, there is a small island with tents on it. Looking at the map, draw a straight line north from the island. Warug is North of the island and EAST of the imaginary line you drew. You should see the indicator on your minimap when you get close enough (he's hangin out by a big fire)

Hope this helps

Thottbot의 댓글

At lvl 56 you dont get 20+rep every kill... you get 4-5.. so it took me about 200 kills to do what you do with 50.. quit whining:P

Thottbot의 댓글

I think i might have found a way in which BOTH clan quests can be done , im not sure yet if it works but im going to give it ago. What i have come up with so far is even if u have become friendly with one clan side , u can STILL be a war with them if u click on the At War box. So that means once comepleting all the quest with one clan, tick the box to become at war with them and start killing them till the Rep becomes friendly with the other clan...... again im not sure if it will work as im doing it now so i will let you all know :)

Thottbot의 댓글

Yep it works alright, Complete all the quest u have with ONE clan, then once there all done Click on the box ( At War With ) then start killing them all and ur rep will increast with the OTHER clan group, become friendly with them and u can do all there quests gaining u aload more exp/items. Does take a LONNNNGG time tho but hey its worth it in the long run for Exp.

Thottbot의 댓글

There is (or used to be) a very very easy (and cheeky) way to do both clan quests at the same time with almost no effort what-so-ever.

Get a friend, doesn't matter what level they are, the higher the better to be honest, and make a group.

Let your friend do all the killing. DO NOT ATTACK ANY MOB YOURSELF. You will get rep gain with one clan, but you wont lose any with the other.

This means you can be friendly with both at the same time.

Yeah, you don't get any XP for the killing, nor is it a great deal of fun being your friend's shadow for the ~40 minutes (less now since you start as neutral instead of unfriendly) it took to get friendly, but it is easier, and kinda neat to be friendly with both.

The last time I tried this was pre 2.0.1 and since there was a lot of changes to the rep system in that patch, I have no idea if it works now, and I do believe there are changes in 2.1 which might also affect it, but I'm guessing.

Thottbot의 댓글

where can i find de Gelkis village. killing is complete? no Cor. plz

Thottbot의 댓글

For those wondering, which clan do I kill, take this into consideration -

The Magram clan are a lot easier to kill. They're lower level, and the Gelkis have minions. I was able to complete this quest as a lv 32 rogue, but I wouldn't have been able to do it if I were killing Gelkis.

Second, if you want to get to Feralas from Desolace, kill Magram. Being Hostile with the Gelkis is going to make it hell trying to get to Feralas since they're camped right at the border.

Hope this helps.

Thottbot의 댓글

I found with my hunter that Gelkis seemed to have more quests.

Thottbot의 댓글

Location of Warug is on top of a hill near a fire, as far east as you can go in the Magram Village. Location of Uthek is in the northernmost hut of the Gelkis Village.

For any of you having trouble finding these villages, they're both to the far south, Magram Village is southeast, at the bottom of the map, and Gelkis Village is southwest, at the bottom of the map.

Hope this helps :)

Thottbot의 댓글

i was hoping that Warug would told up as a yellow ? on my mini map but even if i run around the whole village, Warug still won't appear as a yellow ? on my mini map.. i guess i'll just have to find him from the co-ords that some were kind enough to include

Thottbot의 댓글

coords for "Warug" is 74.9 68.1 im looking dead at him right now hope this helps you future players.

Thottbot의 댓글

Ok the difference is here,

Magram rep end reward is leather
Gelkis rep End reward is mail

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=1381/칸-흐라사

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=1380/칸-흐라사

Thottbot의 댓글

Ok the difference is here,

Magram rep end reward is leather
Gelkis rep End reward is mail

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=1381/칸-흐라사

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=1380/칸-흐라사

Thottbot의 댓글

Im having trouble finding the person you hand the first part of the quest Brutal Politics please help......

Thottbot의 댓글

i think they changed the quest now because it says i must form an alliance with the magrans not either side. which means i gotta kill gelkis and only gelkis

Thottbot의 댓글

so do you think you could do both if you finished one quest then turned around and killed the ones you allied with

Allakhazam의 댓글

This quest requires you kill a lot of mobs. It is easy because the mobs are either neutral or unfriendly to you, meaning they will not attack you on sight.

You have to kill a total of 50 of any of the following
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Gelkis Earthcaller
Gelkis Marauder
Gelkis Mauler
Gelkis Outrunner
Gelkis Rumbler
Gelkis Scout
Gelkis Stamper
Gelkis Windchaser

They are just west of the path that runs into Feralas, which is way south. 39, 86

Turn in is the mob Warug in southeast Desolace. 74, 68

Before leaving the Gelkis sight, check your reputation page to make sure you are friendly with Magram Clan. If you are just neutral you need to kill a few more.

If you do this quest, it will be virtually impossible to do the quest chain starting with the quest called Strange Alliance, so if you do this quest just drop the quest called Strange Alliance.

I did the quest at level 36. Its a good level to do it at.

Allakhazam의 댓글

ok basically, if you think this is a lousy quest (for having to get 50 kills) at level 36 (one level above recomended) as a 36 mage, they take little effort to kill, and i can kill about 3-5 before i have to refill mana and health. i'm going to give some after results, but as it is now, i have 14 kills, and with rested, the xp i have receive so far from those 14 kills ammounts to 5236 but i won't be on rested much longer. i'll calculate how much xp the average person should get at 50 kills if they are level 36. Basically, if you're getting 187xp per kill unrested (like me) you're looking at 10K xp just for the kills in this quest alone. Course you could go out and just grind @#$% for the hell of it. but this way you get a small bonus at the end. have fun.

Allakhazam의 댓글

Just starting this quest, went from Nijel's point to Magram Village (76,68), at this point i am not friendly with Warug. Get back on road and follow west, past Mannoroc Coven and you will come to sign for Feathermoon stronghold, you will meet plenty of Gelkis here. (39,81) After one kill i became Neutral with both clans.
After second kill, rep with Magram Clan Centaur increased by 20 and rep. with Gelkis decreased by 100 (the Celkis are level 33/34)- same maths on third kill.
After seven kills my rep with magram is 2160, so i need a furder 840 or 42 more kills.
Also keep an eye out for the level 40 giants and double guard patrols

Hunter level 35

Allakhazam의 댓글

74,68

Allakhazam의 댓글

whata horrible quest, i dont even know how many ive killed so far

Allakhazam의 댓글

I agree with Leeland.

Allakhazam의 댓글

Comos user: 73,66 for Warug

Allakhazam의 댓글

The next quest is Assault on the Kolkar, not listed here.

Allakhazam의 댓글

Ok, after reading all these posts one very important question remains: Exactly what are we supposed to kill 50 of?

Allakhazam의 댓글

If you decide to do this for whatever reason after the mobs are no longer much of a hassle to you, be prepared for a long grind.

Once you are too high to get xp, you will only get 4 rep per kill (incl. minions though).

So at lvl 44 you'll only get the full 20 rep from the few mobs lvl 36 - which is gonna take a bloody while (I need to fraps the horn event at the end of the questline).

Killing Khan Shaka nets 25 rep, but he has two lvl 36 adds.

Allakhazam의 댓글

As a level 36, it appears I am getting +20 rep for the opposing faction, while taking -100 rep for the faction I am killing. You start out at 2000/neutral faction, and you need to get to 3000 to be 'friendly'. So that is a gain of 1000 rep. Consider that you get +20 rep per kill, it will take you 1000/20 or 50 kills in order to gain the proper reputation. This will damage your rep by 50*100=5000 on the other faction. It also appears that you remain neutral until the 2000 drops to zero, which will happen after 20 kills. After that you become 'unfriendly', but you are not kos still at this point. It appears to take another -3000 rep points for that to happen.

So it takes 20 kills to be unfriendly, 50 kills to be hated, and 50 kills to be friendly to the opposing side.

The Magrams are in the southeast. They appear to be slightly lower level.. at least the ones I have seen are 32-33ish so far. The Gelkis are in the southwest, and take a lot longer to get to. The Gelkis are also near a path to the next zone.

I chose to attack the Magrams because they are closer to Nigels Point, they can easily be avoided, they appear to be easier to kill, and they don't guard a path to another zone. There are also a lot of high level 30s near the Gelkis, so it might pay off to have a safe place to run to when fighting down there.

They also drop Centaur ears so you can do Centaur Bounty at the same time.

Edited, Jul 25th 2006 at 5:48pm EDT by Seaxouri

Edited, Jul 25th 2006 at 6:14pm EDT by Seaxouri

Allakhazam의 댓글

Warun is at 74,68

You need to kill a lot of Gelkis to gain his advantage!

Allakhazam의 댓글

When i kill magram i get -100 reputation but im going to get +100 reputation....why?

Allakhazam의 댓글

I think the admins were hinting at what they'd like us to do when they titled the Magram quest "Brutal Politics" and the Gelkis quest "Strange Alliance". I.E. brutalize the Magram and ally with the Gelkis?

I know we don't have to swing it this way, but I'm going that way just to get it over with.

And I also found Warug at 74,68. North of the main village, in the hills by a bonfire. Can't miss it. :-P

Allakhazam의 댓글

Unless you gotta have absolutely something that one of these two camps gives - don't DON'T mess with this or the other quest.

just stay neutral with both.

i had to go 3 kills into hostile to get the quest. it took 30 kills to get the faction back up to unfriendly (3.01)and lowered this faction down to unfriendly (about 3.78). what a pain. if you want to kill tons of centaurs great. the other camp is by a road to another zone so you really don't want to have problems crossing there.

after i came in here and read the quests i said - so what.

so - my advice avoid the centaur quests except for the one the corporal hands out and doing the bodyguard for the goblin.

PS: if you gotta do this - kill at higher than your level, you hit the faction level faster because it goes: so and so has increased SLIGHTLY and so and so has Decreased - when you complete the kill

Allakhazam의 댓글

I had to kill 750 of them. Being level 45, the gelki only gave me 4 points per kill. 3000 / 45 = 750 and yes I did kill that many and it took a few hours. Now you gotta ask yourself: why? Simply because I felt like it. I like to be thorough, and I've done crazier things like swim from Menethil harbor to Westfall for the water travel form quest.

Allakhazam의 댓글

on lvl 32 u will get -100 rep. points from the one faction and +20 points to another on every kill.
super quests for 31+ lvls!

Edited, Feb 5th 2007 4:03pm by astrodmf

Allakhazam의 댓글

Have to agree completely with those advising deleting both quests - waste of time and not worth being hated by two groups that you will never come in contact with again.

Allakhazam의 댓글

this and strange alliance SUCK! I found Uthek (sp) he won't talk. So I go to find the other guy. Never could find him. Bottom line drop the stupid quests and go on with the game. Oh and yes I did end up killing a lot of both and they now both HATE me. YAY! Serves them right for not talking ot me. ;-)

Allakhazam의 댓글

I do not make or loose Reputation with either side.

Surely I am suppose to have Reputation Bars now, so I can see my standing,
I do not have these.

I tried abandoning and retaking both, then singularly, but nothing.

What am I doing wrong?

Allakhazam의 댓글

Just found him at 74,68

Allakhazam의 댓글

I love it when people whine & cry about having to kill a bunch of mobs in a quest.

Well I'm gonna let you in on a little secret, your gonna have to kill several THOUSAND more mobs to get to 70. Oh, and when you do get to 70, guess what? your STILL gonna have to kill mobs. Come to think of it, isn't it why you bought the game to begin with? TO KILL MOBS!

Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 2:31am by Leeland

Allakhazam의 댓글

Warug at hill with bonfire, NE of village.

Allakhazam의 댓글

If you pick a side and get to friendly and the other side is hostile/friendly is there a way to get it back to friendly again?

Lanou의 댓글

In order to start reputation gaining and finding the factions in your reputation section you need to kill one Magram.

TerribleAtGames의 댓글

My recommendation:
Only start on this questline if you are a quest collector or desperately needs XP. And if so, do finish this questline first before you start with the nuking of the filthy Magram clan during the opposite questline starting with Strange Alliance. It is simply a lot more satisfying giving the Gelkis clan revenge as they actually are a kind clan from the beginning of.

And if you do not collect quests or desperately needs XP, abandon this quest and start on Strange Alliance instead.

Lourss의 댓글

For those wondering whether it is possible in Classic; you cannot be a ghost form and avoid the negative reputation while a party members kills the centaurs (I believe this was possible in original vanilla)

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